Gladi, you wrote, "Why there should be any so called trial for killing a self-declared killer, Mujib?"
you also wrote, "No one can be killed without any trial no matter what crime he/she committed."
If you find that the above 2 stmts of yours supplements each others, or consequences, I give up on you, you are right; in case, they do not, you need to straight up your stand.
The posthumous trial is not impossible, if somebody proceeds; practically speaking, nobody did so per. In a country like BD, where people are deprived of justice in regular way, who will go for posthumous?
In BD, so per, the current gov influence the justice system, because we do not have strong minded judges in our nation & people in the gov are not competent. In the past, none of the judges did anything to remember in high profile cases. So, Motia, Shahara, Shafiqs, Moududs, Rafiqs influenced, or will influence the outcomes of judgments.
My statement "Why there should be any so called trial for killing a self-declared killer, Mujib?" is not contradiction rather manifestation of consequences what Mujib deserves. I do stand on my points. Before the trial of Mujib killing I want the posthumous trial of Mujib for the crimes he committed. Then come for the trial of his assasination in cronological order. What kind of justice you are calling it when "sudari-stick precession" is brought out against the judges to get the verdict in favour of complainant? What kind of justice you expect when ministers (Matia and Dipu Moni) of BAL cabinet is supervising the whole process of Mujib killing trial being present in the supreme court? Can you explain those? Is there any reason to love these activities instead of hating them?
You are straying from the track. The story you told are one of the broken records played several times by one of the members of this forum known as jalam aka farmer and most probably this present villager. Siraj Sikder is not my spirit but a shining example of the ruthlessness of Mujib era. My previous posting was intended to imply that killing of Siraj is the pave-stone of the extrajudicial killing in the country which was laid by Mujib. No one can be killed without any trial no matter what crime he/she committed. If you deny that then you don't possess the morality to demand the trial of Mujib killers. I believe you possess sufficient brain to understant this argument.
Siraj Siker & people used to cut people's head, you have possesed his spirit; so, for you justice etc. are uknown things.
He was not a freedom fighter, he with his people were just collecting arms to use later.
Collecting of arms in the name of freedom fight was instructions from Charu Mojumder.
In Mirsarai, a Lt. of Charu Mojumder was killed along with his father & sister by Z-Force. His name was Kashem Raja; addr: upzela: Mirsarai, Village: Isakhali, Julonpul ( Draw Bridge).
Why there should be any so called trial for killing a self-declared killer, Mujib? Let him burn in the hell. He killed 40K freedom fighters including Siraj Sikder in his 3-year tenure . He killed thousands of poor people by creating famine in 1974. He killed the very basic of a nation - 'freedom of speech' by creating BAKSAL. First try him posthumous for those killings and then we should think about his assasinations.
আত্মস্বীকৃত এই কসাইগুলোর আর কি সুবিচার পাওয়া উচিত বুঝলামনা! এদের যে জোট সরকার উদ্ভাবিত ক্রস্ফায়ারে দেয়া হয়নি এটাই সবচেয়ে বড় বিস্ময়!! কারণ স্বঘোষিত আর কোন খুনি এতো ন্যায়বিচার পেয়েছে বলে আমার জানা নাই।
villager সাহেব,
মুক্ত এই পৃথিবীতে ভাষা তেমন কোন ব্যাপার নয়। তবে সত্যি, উর্দুর সাথে আমাদের একটি bad experience ছিলো। তারও অতীতে ১৭৫৭ থেকে ১৯৪৭ পর্য্যন্ত ইংরেজদের ভাষা ইংরেজীর সাথেও bad experience ছিলো। তার পরেও আমরা ইংরেজীর ব্যাবহার তো বন্ধ করে দেইনি।
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Gladi: If your stmts supplements, or consequences, I give up
Gladi, you wrote, "Why there should be any so called trial for killing a self-declared killer, Mujib?"
you also wrote, "No one can be killed without any trial no matter what crime he/she committed."
If you find that the above 2 stmts of yours supplements each others, or consequences, I give up on you, you are right; in case, they do not, you need to straight up your stand.
The posthumous trial is not impossible, if somebody proceeds; practically speaking, nobody did so per. In a country like BD, where people are deprived of justice in regular way, who will go for posthumous?
In BD, so per, the current gov influence the justice system, because we do not have strong minded judges in our nation & people in the gov are not competent. In the past, none of the judges did anything to remember in high profile cases. So, Motia, Shahara, Shafiqs, Moududs, Rafiqs influenced, or will influence the outcomes of judgments.
Vil, that's not contradiction rather consequence
My statement "Why there should be any so called trial for killing a self-declared killer, Mujib?" is not contradiction rather manifestation of consequences what Mujib deserves. I do stand on my points. Before the trial of Mujib killing I want the posthumous trial of Mujib for the crimes he committed. Then come for the trial of his assasination in cronological order. What kind of justice you are calling it when "sudari-stick precession" is brought out against the judges to get the verdict in favour of complainant? What kind of justice you expect when ministers (Matia and Dipu Moni) of BAL cabinet is supervising the whole process of Mujib killing trial being present in the supreme court? Can you explain those? Is there any reason to love these activities instead of hating them?
Gladi: You have contradicted, driven by hatred.
Gladi, you wrote, "Why there should be any so called trial for killing a self-declared killer, Mujib?"
you also wrote, "No one can be killed without any trial no matter what crime he/she committed."
Straight up your stand, when talkig about law, there is no place for dual stand.
Vil, Siraj Sikder is not the spirit but an example
You are straying from the track. The story you told are one of the broken records played several times by one of the members of this forum known as jalam aka farmer and most probably this present villager. Siraj Sikder is not my spirit but a shining example of the ruthlessness of Mujib era. My previous posting was intended to imply that killing of Siraj is the pave-stone of the extrajudicial killing in the country which was laid by Mujib. No one can be killed without any trial no matter what crime he/she committed. If you deny that then you don't possess the morality to demand the trial of Mujib killers. I believe you possess sufficient brain to understant this argument.
Gadi: You have Siraj Sikder, the head cutter's spirit
Siraj Siker & people used to cut people's head, you have possesed his spirit; so, for you justice etc. are uknown things.
He was not a freedom fighter, he with his people were just collecting arms to use later.
Collecting of arms in the name of freedom fight was instructions from Charu Mojumder.
In Mirsarai, a Lt. of Charu Mojumder was killed along with his father & sister by Z-Force. His name was Kashem Raja; addr: upzela: Mirsarai, Village: Isakhali, Julonpul ( Draw Bridge).
Why there should be a justice for a killer?
Why there should be any so called trial for killing a self-declared killer, Mujib? Let him burn in the hell. He killed 40K freedom fighters including Siraj Sikder in his 3-year tenure . He killed thousands of poor people by creating famine in 1974. He killed the very basic of a nation - 'freedom of speech' by creating BAKSAL. First try him posthumous for those killings and then we should think about his assasinations.
আত্মস্বীকৃত এই কসাইগুলোর আর
আত্মস্বীকৃত এই কসাইগুলোর আর কি সুবিচার পাওয়া উচিত বুঝলামনা! এদের যে জোট সরকার উদ্ভাবিত ক্রস্ফায়ারে দেয়া হয়নি এটাই সবচেয়ে বড় বিস্ময়!! কারণ স্বঘোষিত আর কোন খুনি এতো ন্যায়বিচার পেয়েছে বলে আমার জানা নাই।
villager, মনে হয় অনেক কিছু বলার থাকেনা।
যখন সেটা আপনার belief। মনে হয় অনেক কিছু বলার থাকেনা।
ভালো থাকুন।
MD, your argu is logical, still do not like Urdu
I know, I do not have logics behind my belief, but hate urdu.
For some reasons like English, French, German, Spenish, Russian and Arabic.
জনাব villager, মুক্ত এই পৃথিবীতে ভাষা তেমন কোন ব্যাপার নয়।
villager সাহেব,
মুক্ত এই পৃথিবীতে ভাষা তেমন কোন ব্যাপার নয়। তবে সত্যি, উর্দুর সাথে আমাদের একটি bad experience ছিলো। তারও অতীতে ১৭৫৭ থেকে ১৯৪৭ পর্য্যন্ত ইংরেজদের ভাষা ইংরেজীর সাথেও bad experience ছিলো। তার পরেও আমরা ইংরেজীর ব্যাবহার তো বন্ধ করে দেইনি।